{"id":1292,"date":"2017-10-03T16:28:02","date_gmt":"2017-10-03T14:28:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.zudro.sk\/?p=1292"},"modified":"2017-10-31T00:35:49","modified_gmt":"2017-10-30T22:35:49","slug":"marek-sulik-o-svojom-filme-tazka-dusa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/?p=1292","title":{"rendered":"Marek \u0160ul\u00edk o svojom filme \u0164a\u017ek\u00e1 du\u0161a"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Pop\u00ed\u0161te n\u00e1m, ako ste sa k cel\u00e9mu projektu \u0160ilalo pa\u0148ori dostali?<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S etnografkou Janou Beli\u0161ovou a filmovou teoreti\u010dkou Zuzanou Moj\u017ei\u0161ovou sme sa rozpr\u00e1vali o tom, \u017ee by bolo u\u017eito\u010dn\u00e9 zachyti\u0165 aj v obraze e\u0161te t\u00fdch r\u00f3mskych \u013eudov\u00fdch spev\u00e1kov, ktor\u00ed si pam\u00e4taj\u00fa a\u00a0vedia interpretova\u0165 star\u00e9 r\u00f3mske \u017ealostn\u00e9 piesne. Bola to ale p\u00f4vodne Janina iniciat\u00edva, ke\u010f\u017ee ona sa tejto t\u00e9me venuje cel\u00fd profesion\u00e1lny \u017eivot.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pl\u00e1novali ste robi\u0165 dokument s r\u00f3mskou tematikou?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nem\u00e1m v sebe konkr\u00e9tne vybran\u00e9 t\u00e9my a teda nepl\u00e1noval som robi\u0165\u00a0filmy s\u00a0r\u00f3mskou tematikou. Ale ani som si nemyslel, \u017ee urob\u00edm film o holokauste alebo o opusten\u00fdch de\u0165och. Je to u m\u0148a tak, \u017ee sa ocit\u00e1m v situ\u00e1ci\u00e1ch, kedy sa mus\u00edm rozhodn\u00fa\u0165, \u010di ma nie\u010do zauj\u00edma nato\u013eko, aby som tomu venoval svoj \u010das. \u010ci je to zmyslupln\u00e9 a \u010di ma to nejako pri\u0165ahuje a \u010di s\u00fa okolnosti priazniv\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Po\u010das trojro\u010dn\u00e9ho zbierania materi\u00e1lu sa v\u00e1m muselo prihodi\u0165 mno\u017estvo \u00fasmevn\u00fdch pr\u00edhod. Je nejak\u00e1 situ\u00e1cia, na ktor\u00fa si spom\u00ednate, ktor\u00e1 bola pre v\u00e1s in\u0161pirat\u00edvna a mo\u017eno zmenila aj v\u00e1\u0161 poh\u013ead na komunitu r\u00f3mov?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Smiali sme sa s nimi takmer st\u00e1le, ale \u00fasmevn\u00fa pr\u00edhodu si nepam\u00e4t\u00e1m. M\u00e1m zl\u00fa pam\u00e4\u0165.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotosk-clean-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11712 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotosk-clean-1-1024x626.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 810px) 100vw, 810px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotosk-clean-1-1024x626.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotosk-clean-1-300x183.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotosk-clean-1-768x469.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotosk-clean-1-810x495.jpg 810w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotosk-clean-1-1140x697.jpg 1140w\" alt=\"\" width=\"666\" height=\"407\" \/><\/a><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ako by ste zadefinovali vz\u0165ah rod\u00edn, ktor\u00e9 zobrazujete vo filme \u0164a\u017ek\u00e1 du\u0161a s\u00a0t\u00fdmi, \u010do maj\u00fa va\u0161i priatelia, zn\u00e1mi alebo aj vy s\u00e1m. S\u00fa tam markantn\u00e9 rozdiely pri v\u00fdchove? Pripad\u00e1 v\u00e1m v nie\u010dom r\u00f3mska komunita lep\u0161ia oproti na\u0161ej? (v r\u00e1mci zvykov, trad\u00edci\u00ed).<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ur\u010dite nebudem hovori\u0165, \u010di je v nie\u010dom lep\u0161ia alebo hor\u0161ia. A\u00a0neviem ani hovori\u0165 v nejak\u00fdch sociologick\u00fdch zov\u0161eobecneniach. S\u00edce sme v r\u00f3mskych rodin\u00e1ch boli dlho, bolo to ale s\u00fastreden\u00e9 na pr\u00e1cu, \u010di\u017ee neza\u017eil som rodiny v be\u017enom chode. Postreh, ktor\u00fd m\u00e1m je ten, \u017ee t\u00fdm, \u017ee \u013eudia z t\u00fdchto skup\u00edn \u017eij\u00fa viac pokope, v jednom priestore a\u00a0aj \u010dase, tak s\u00fa aj ich rodiny rozmanitej\u0161ie a genera\u010dne a vz\u0165ahovo vrstevnatej\u0161ie. Vo filme to a\u017e tak nevidno, lebo pr\u00e1ve tie rozmanit\u00e9 vz\u0165ahy sme z d\u00f4vodu zrozumite\u013enosti museli zjednodu\u0161i\u0165. Teda mnoh\u00ed \u013eudia, \u017eij\u00faci v jednom priestore vo filme nie s\u00fa. Druh\u00e1 vec je, \u017ee \u017eivot v danej spolo\u010denskej vrstve vytv\u00e1ra aj ak\u00e9si o\u010dak\u00e1vania alebo tlaky. Tak\u017ee, ak ste \u010dlenom strednej vrstvy, s\u00fa\u00a0tu aj ist\u00e9 veci, ktor\u00e9 \u201etreba\u201c robi\u0165. Ak \u017eijete ale v soci\u00e1lne vyl\u00fa\u010denej vrstve \u013eud\u00ed, tieto veci tam nie v\u017edy funguj\u00fa, resp. funguj\u00fa inak. Konkr\u00e9tne: ak napr\u00edklad vyrast\u00e1te v prostred\u00ed, kde je norm\u00e1lny tlak na v\u00fdkon, dosahovanie merate\u013en\u00fdch v\u00fdsledkov, tak aj vy to prevezmete ako samozrejmos\u0165. Ale kde ten tlak nie je, tak to nem\u00e1te odkia\u013e prevzia\u0165. Av\u0161ak, ten tlak je napokon len nejak\u00fdm soci\u00e1lnym kon\u0161truktom. Nikde nie je nap\u00edsan\u00e9, \u017ee to je to jedin\u00e9 spr\u00e1vne.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-2.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11713\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-2-1024x626.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 810px) 100vw, 810px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-2-1024x626.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-2-300x183.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-2-768x469.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-2-810x495.jpg 810w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-2-1140x697.jpg 1140w\" alt=\"\" width=\"665\" height=\"406\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>V poviedke Erik sa sna\u017e\u00ed otec presved\u010di\u0165 chlapca, aby hral na hudobn\u00fd n\u00e1stroj. Jeho to ale nezauj\u00edma. Strata kult\u00farnych hodn\u00f4t sa prejavuje aj v na\u0161ej komunite. \u010c\u00edm si mysl\u00edte, \u017ee je pr\u00ed\u010dinou a ako sa proti tomuto chr\u00e1ni\u0165?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Neviem, \u010di sa proti tomu treba chr\u00e1ni\u0165. Je to predsa prirodzen\u00fd beh vec\u00ed. Erika to mo\u017eno nezauj\u00edma preto, \u017ee nechce \u017ei\u0165 \u017eivot jeho otca. Ak hovor\u00edme o \u017ealostn\u00fdch pies\u0148ach, tak je to kr\u00e1sny a emocion\u00e1lne siln\u00fd fenom\u00e9n, ale je spojen\u00fd s utrpen\u00edm, povedzme \u017ee so soci\u00e1lnou vyl\u00fa\u010denos\u0165ou. Ak zanikne preto, \u017ee sa bude r\u00f3mom lep\u0161ie \u017ei\u0165, tak to nie je zl\u00e9. Ani p\u00f4vodn\u00fd slovensk\u00fd folkl\u00f3r neexistuje, dnes po\u010d\u00favame jeho interpret\u00e1cie. A ja osobne nem\u00e1m pocit straty kult\u00farnych hodn\u00f4t. Tie predsa nie s\u00fa zakotven\u00e9 len vo folkl\u00f3re. S\u00fa v\u0161ade: v knih\u00e1ch, filmoch, soch\u00e1ch, obrazoch\u2026 a mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee dnes je \u010do \u010d\u00edta\u0165 a pozera\u0165. A aj ten folkl\u00f3r sa vyn\u00e1ra v inej podobe: ak po\u010d\u00favate Bandu, Katar\u00ednu M\u00e1likov\u00fa, Roberta Pospi\u0161a, alebo Zuzanu Homolov\u00fa \u010di \u010fal\u0161\u00edch, tak sa m\u00f4\u017eete spoji\u0165 s na\u0161imi predkami \u201epriamou linkou\u201c.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ko\u013eko \u010dasu ste s jednotliv\u00fdmi rodinami str\u00e1vili?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tri poviedky sme nat\u00e1\u010dali s prest\u00e1vkami takmer mesiac. Vo filme s\u00fa v\u0161ak pou\u017eit\u00e9 aj sc\u00e9ny, ktor\u00e9 sme nato\u010dili po\u010das v\u00fdskumu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ako ste postupovali pri to\u010den\u00ed, aby v\u00e1m uk\u00e1zali R\u00f3movia a\u00a0konkr\u00e9tne rodiny svoj sp\u00f4sob \u017eivota? Bolo \u0165a\u017ek\u00e9 vybudova\u0165 si u nich d\u00f4veru?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S \u013eu\u010fmi, ktor\u00fdch sme si vybrali do filmu, sme sa poznali zv\u00e4\u010d\u0161a u\u017e predt\u00fdm, aj to n\u00e1m teda otvorilo dvere. Jana ich poznala sk\u00f4r, ja som poznal dve z t\u00fdch rod\u00edn a hlavne sme s nimi predt\u00fdm boli, ke\u010f sme nakr\u00facali dokumenta\u010dn\u00e9 vide\u00e1, ktor\u00e9 zaznamen\u00e1vali iba spevy a rozpr\u00e1vanie. Ale treba e\u0161te doda\u0165, \u017ee\u00a0s\u00fa to \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed boli radi, \u017ee sa niekto zauj\u00edma o ich \u017eivot, probl\u00e9my, ale aj o hudbu, ktor\u00fa maj\u00fa ve\u013emi radi. Vedia, \u017ee ich akceptujeme, \u010di dokonca v istom zmysle obdivujeme, preto\u017ee vedia to, \u010do my nie.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-3.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11714\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-3-1024x626.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 810px) 100vw, 810px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-3-1024x626.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-3-300x183.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-3-768x469.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-3-810x495.jpg 810w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-3-1140x697.jpg 1140w\" alt=\"\" width=\"658\" height=\"402\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>V r\u00e1mci etnomuzikol\u00f3gie je \u0160ilalo pa\u0148ori ve\u013emi rozsiahly projekt. Ak sa pozer\u00e1te na svoj film, nem\u00e1te pocit, \u017ee by sa tam dalo doda\u0165 e\u0161te kopec d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00fdch vec\u00ed?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Informa\u010dne ani nie. V\u00fdskumn\u00fd projekt a film s\u00fa dve r\u00f4zne veci, r\u00f4zne pr\u00edstupy, aj ke\u010f hovoria o rovnakej t\u00e9me a inou re\u010dou. Film nem\u00e1 charakter n\u00e1u\u010dn\u00e9ho dokumentu, nie je tam ani koment\u00e1r. Je to sk\u00f4r z\u00e1\u017eitok z pr\u00edtomn\u00e9ho pre\u017e\u00edvania situ\u00e1ci\u00ed, \u017eia\u013eu \u010di smiechu. Hoci, d\u00e1 sa v istom zmysle vn\u00edma\u0165 aj ako pr\u00edspevok do vizu\u00e1lnej antropol\u00f3gie.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u010co je pre v\u00e1s ako tvorcu naj\u0165a\u017e\u0161ie pri pozeran\u00ed materi\u00e1lu a rozhodovan\u00ed sa, \u010do p\u00f4jde pre\u010d a \u010do zostane?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pri rozhodovan\u00ed hr\u00e1 d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00fa \u00falohu t\u00e9ma, ktor\u00fa sa sna\u017e\u00edte nejako tvorivo vrstvi\u0165. A ke\u010f to urob\u00edte, tak e\u0161te ostan\u00fa veci vo filme, drobn\u00e9 detaily, pohyby, repliky, ktor\u00e9 si ob\u013e\u00fabite, \u017eijete s nimi, opakujete ich. Neuvedomujete si, \u017ee s\u00fa na obtia\u017e rozpr\u00e1vaniu. Vtedy je d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00fd odstup aj trocha \u00fanavy a tie\u017e postrehy priate\u013eov, ktor\u00fdm nehotov\u00fd film pust\u00edte. Ke\u010f je mo\u017enos\u0165 odstupu a nejakej sp\u00e4tnej v\u00e4zby, tak potom vyhod\u00edte, prehod\u00edte, uprav\u00edte hoci\u010do, lebo zrazu \u201eTO\u201c nefunk\u010dn\u00e9 vid\u00edte lep\u0161ie. Ale na to \u201eTO\u201c tie\u017e jestvuj\u00fa r\u00f4zne n\u00e1zory. Ja sa sna\u017e\u00edm svoje filmy urobi\u0165 tak, aby som sa na ne v\u017edy r\u00e1d pozrel a aby fungovali v mojej hlave. Film v\u0161ak videli aj dobr\u00ed kamar\u00e1ti film\u00e1ri, ktor\u00ed by asi \u0161tvrtinu materi\u00e1lu vyhodili. Toto je pre m\u0148a \u0165a\u017ek\u00e9 pos\u00fadi\u0165 a priam nemo\u017en\u00e9 urobi\u0165.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-4.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11715\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-4-1024x626.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 810px) 100vw, 810px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-4-1024x626.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-4-300x183.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-4-768x469.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-4-810x495.jpg 810w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-4-1140x697.jpg 1140w\" alt=\"\" width=\"650\" height=\"397\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>V \u010dom vid\u00edte d\u00f4le\u017eitos\u0165 tohto filmu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Neviem. Mo\u017eno nie je d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00fd. Ale je to pekn\u00fd z\u00e1\u017eitok, vidie\u0165 ho. Odpor\u00fa\u010dam. S\u00e1m som bol prekvapen\u00fd, ke\u010f som ho videl na premi\u00e9re v A4. Kino pln\u00e9 div\u00e1kov m\u00e1 nenahradite\u013en\u00fa energiu, ktor\u00fa pri pozeran\u00ed na po\u010d\u00edta\u010di neza\u017eijete. A za\u017e\u00edva\u0165 pekn\u00e9 z\u00e1\u017eitky je vlastne tie\u017e d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kedy a kde m\u00f4\u017eeme film \u0164a\u017ek\u00e1 du\u0161a vidie\u0165?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V distrib\u00facii bude od okt\u00f3bra, v Bratislave napr\u00edklad v kine Lumi\u00e8re.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-5.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11716\" src=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-5-1024x626.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 810px) 100vw, 810px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-5-1024x626.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-5-300x183.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-5-768x469.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-5-810x495.jpg 810w, http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/tazka-dusa-fotoska-clean-5-1140x697.jpg 1140w\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"440\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.9em.sk\/marek-sulik-o-svojom-filme-tazka-dusa\/\"><strong>Pavel Chod\u00far, 9em.sk, 2. 10. 2017<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pop\u00ed\u0161te n\u00e1m, ako ste sa k cel\u00e9mu projektu \u0160ilalo pa\u0148ori dostali? S etnografkou Janou Beli\u0161ovou a filmovou teoreti\u010dkou Zuzanou Moj\u017ei\u0161ovou sme sa rozpr\u00e1vali o tom, \u017ee by bolo u\u017eito\u010dn\u00e9 zachyti\u0165 aj v obraze e\u0161te t\u00fdch r\u00f3mskych \u013eudov\u00fdch spev\u00e1kov, ktor\u00ed si pam\u00e4taj\u00fa a\u00a0vedia interpretova\u0165 star\u00e9 r\u00f3mske \u017ealostn\u00e9 piesne. Bola to ale p\u00f4vodne Janina iniciat\u00edva, ke\u010f\u017ee ona [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[62,10,82,83],"tags":[54,84,85],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1292"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1292"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1292\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1337,"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1292\/revisions\/1337"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1292"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1292"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stare.zudro.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1292"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
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